Darren Criss on Not Whitewashing Half-Filipino Andrew Cunanan In ‘Versace’ — Turn It On Podcast
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Darren Criss on Not Whitewashing Half-Filipino Andrew Cunanan In ‘Versace’ — Turn It On Podcast
Darren Criss calls it “serendipity” that he already was in Ryan Murphy’s orbit when the producer focused in on telling the tale of serial killer Andrew Cunanan for “The Assassination of Gianni Versace,” the latest edition of “American Crime Story.” Cunanan was half-Filipino, just as Criss is, which gave the actor a rare opportunity to play his ethnicity.
“I believe there are a lot of great half-Filipino actors out there that could have done this a lot of justice, [but] when Ryan talked about doing this three years ago, before we actually got the ball rolling last year, I would joke with him saying, ‘Hey man, I would love to do this, but if you don’t want me to do it with you, I defy you to find another guy who looks kind of like him, who’s in the same age range, who’s in your Rolodex of actors. Because if you don’t cast a half-Filipino guy, the Filipino community is going to cry bloody murder. So I don’t know what your other options are!’
“I would have never held that against him but I would jokingly think that. I’m glad it all came to fruition when it did.”
Executive producer Nina Jacobson said it was important that the actor playing Cunanan was half-Filipino, especially after having just produced the upcoming film “Crazy Rich Asians.”
“We did not want to whitewash a role,” she said. “Andrew was half-Filipino, and it was really important to not just get a guy and say that he was. We wanted to be authentic in terms of Andrew’s background. And the fact that Darren had kind of this striking resemblance physically, the chops of an actor and professionalism to take on a role of this disturbing hard role to play that he also could authentically play a half-Filipino character as opposed to the usual Hollywood thing.”
Criss said that he doesn’t think whitewashing comes out of any conscious malice, but admits that he may harbor “half-white privilege” in that view.
“What makes good casting work is when you have good actors. There are a lot of great Filipino actors that I think people just aren’t thinking outside of the box enough,” he said.
Criss pointed specifically to Jon Jon Briones, who plays Modesto Cunanan in “The Assassination of Gianni Versace.”
“He’s a tried and true Broadway veteran, he’s been acting for years, he’s not just some newbie — maybe to the film and television world but certainly not as a craftsman of acting,” Criss said. “And Ryan asked me, ‘Who is this guy, I love him! Where’s he from, how come he doesn’t get roles?’ I said, ‘Ryan, he does but he’s a Filipino man who looks a certain way. You have to understand the roles he’s being offered.’ The Thai terrorist on ‘CSI.’ And he’s from the original cast of ‘Miss Saigon,’ he’s doing Miss Saigon right now. He’s the Engineer on Broadway. What it takes is a role like this, hopefully, where people go, ‘oh! This guy is really good!’ It sucks we have to wait around for roles that show you off within the corner you’re put in to be able to play in the larger room.”
“The Assassination of Gianni Versace” may have Versace in the title, but it’s really the story of Andrew Cunanan, and the tale of how he became the killer of not just Versace but several other socialites across the country. It was a juicy role for Criss, and IndieWire’s Turn It On podcast recently met up with the actor to discuss the mystery of Cunanan, the sensitivity of the fact that so many people impacted by Cunanan may be watching, and how his ethnicity as a half-Filipino man made him the perfect fit for the role. Later in this episode, we also talked to American Crime Story producers Brad Simpson and Nina Jacobson about the franchise. But first, we talked to Criss about how this role impacted him. Listen below!
Criss said “Versace” was a tremendous role for him, but he’s muted in his enthusiasm because of the realization that Cunanan’s murders impacted many people who are still around and may watch the show.
“Now they have to deal with this being on television and being water cooler fodder at work,” he said. “That’s something I’m very much aware of. Saying this is a dream role I’m careful of because I don’t want to be insensitive to the lives that were affected. However, beyond it being a very interesting part as an actor, I got to work with all these people and we got to travel to interesting places All the boxes were ticked. I got to do a show with Penelope Cruz, Edgar Ramirez, Ricky Martin.”
It was also a bit of a challenge because there isn’t much documentation of Cunanan’s life — which meant Criss had to come up with some of the character on his own. “In that sense, I am relieved from having to do an imitation job,” he said. “He’s not a person that people are familiar with who are expecting me to do my version of Andrew. It gives me a lot of leeway.”
Darren Criss on Not Whitewashing Half-Filipino Andrew Cunanan In ‘Versace’ — Turn It On Podcast
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Remote Controlled: ‘Versace’ Star Darren Criss on Playing Andrew Cunanan, Plus ‘The Four’ Experts
Welcome to “Remote Controlled,” a podcast from Variety featuring the best and brightest in television, both in front of and behind the camera.
In this week’s episode, Variety’s executive editor of TV Debra Birnbaum talks with Darren Criss, who stars in the new installment of FX’s “American Crime Story” franchise, “The Assassination of Gianni Versace.”
Criss says that he’d been discussing playing serial killer Andrew Cunanan with series creator Ryan Murphy for several years. “My reaction was, I’d be thrilled to do this,” he says. “I thought it was something he forgot about and was just spitballing. But he stuck to his word, and I’m so glad he finally decided to do this.”
But he knew the part would always be his, he admits. “I almost defy you, Ryan, to find someone else in your camp who somehow looks like this guy, is actually half-Filipino, is in the same age range,” he says. “Good luck!”
Criss wasn’t intimidated, though, by the thought of playing a serial killer. “People always think that’s some sort of departure, and while I understand that curiosity, I can’t help but feel that same curiosity would be present if I had started with something like this, and this is what you knew me for,” he says. “People forget that actors are actors, and we depart for a living.”
And he says he found ways to relate to Cunanan, and hopes other people will, too. “We all have more in common not only with each other, but the worst person you can think of than we like to admit,” he says. “The differences are small in number but huge in content.”
Criss did his own research and talked to people who knew him. “The show explores the best parts of him and the worst parts of him,” he says. “It’s really a healthy mix of a lot of unhealthy things.”
The more he learned, the more he sympathized with Cunanan. “My heart just broke constantly for this guy,” he said. “The wasted potential is the most heartbreaking tragedy of all of it.”
Remote Controlled: ‘Versace’ Star Darren Criss on Playing Andrew Cunanan, Plus ‘The Four’ Experts
Ricky Martin Cried When He First Saw Edgar Ramirez as Gianni Versace
Ricky Martin chats about his relief work for Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria and tackling homophobia in The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story. | 19 January 2018
Jon Jon Briones, Ricky Martin and Edgar Ramirez on ‘Versace’ roles
(First of two parts)
LOS ANGELES—“‘Versace’ miniseries is the first great show of 2018,” New York Post critic Robert Rorke raved about FX Networks’ “The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story.” Rorke added, “The performances of the leads are outstanding, but special mention must be made of (Darren) Criss, who beautifully captures (Andrew) Cunanan’s ability to tell the biggest lies anyone has ever heard and literally charm the pants off anyone he sets his sights on.”
Rorke went so far as to say that Jon Jon Briones, who plays the Fil-Am Cunanan’s father, could be a “future Emmy winner.” Here’s from Rorke’s review: “And we get a ringside seat at the twisted Cunanan home in San Diego, where Andrew’s con-man father, Pete (future Emmy winner Jon Jon Briones), sold the family home from under his wife and four children before fleeing the country on an embezzlement charge.”
Praise for the entire cast is typified in Variety’s review by Sonia Saraiya: “ … An impeccable Penélope Cruz as Donatella Versace and a strong performance from singer Ricky Martin as Versace’s boyfriend Antonio D’Amico … (Edgar) Ramírez, Cruz and Martin are so compelling together … It’s worth noting that practically every performer in ‘American Crime Story’ is stunning … ”
“The Assassination … ” is creator Ryan Murphy’s Season 2 installment of his “American Crime Story” anthology series, which debuted with the critically lauded “The People v. O.J. Simpson.”
Based in part on “Vulgar Favors,” Maureen Orth’s intensively researched nonfiction bestseller on Cunanan’s crime spree, “The Assassination … ” tells the story in reverse. Ryan directed the premiere episode, which begins with Cunanan fatally shooting Versace (Edgar) in Miami in 1997.
Ryan then narrates backward, “Memento-style,” the journeys that Cunanan and the famous Italian designer went through before their tragic encounter on the marble steps in front of the latter’s mansion in South Beach. Other directors of the nine-episode series include actor Matt Bomer.
Jon Jon Briones
Jon Jon, in an e-mail from New York as he was busy packing on the day after his successful “Miss Saigon” run on Broadway ended, wrote, “I had a wonderful experience working on ‘The Assassination of Gianni Versace’ with fantastic writing from Tom Rob Smith, inspiring direction by Matt Bomer (Episode 8) and Dan Minahan (Episode 9), with Matt, Ryan (Murphy), Nina Jacobson and Brad Simpson (producers) giving their confidence in me. I felt very fortunate to be given this opportunity.”
It seems Jon Jon’s fellow Fil-Am, Darren, plus Ryan, Matt and Nina were so impressed with the Quezon City-born actor that they watched him as The Engineer when they were all in New York.
Jon Jon shared, “A couple of weeks before they saw ‘Miss Saigon,’ Brad Simpson wrote me an e-mail saying they were very happy with my finished episodes and that I will be very pleased when I see them. Brad also mentioned that everyone wanted to see me in ‘Miss Saigon.’
“A week or so later, I got text messages from Matt and Darren saying they’re all, including Ryan Murphy, coming to the show. I’ve never met Ryan before that. I was so excited to finally be in the same room with him. They came to a Saturday show, and they all loved it. I was humbled that they all came to see the show.”
In May last year, we visited the Miami set of “The Assassination …” which was filming in Casa Casuarina, Versace’s lavish villa where he was gunned down by Cunanan after his usual morning routine of buying coffee and magazines in a nearby restaurant. We wrote about our on-set interviews with Darren, Penelope and Ryan in previous columns.
In this column, we feature Ricky Martin and Edgar Ramirez, whom we interviewed in a room right beside the entrance to the mansion that continues to draw gawkers and tourists.
Ricky Martin
Ricky, who acted in a TV series in Latin America and in the US soap series, “General Hospital,” talked about how he prepared to portray real-life figure Antonio D’Amico, Versace’s longtime partner, who rushed to the front of the house when he heard the gunshots.
“The amount of research that we’ve done and, of course, by the production company and Ryan, has helped me so much,” the Puerto Rican singer-actor said. “Ryan tapped into the big story, what’s known and what’s not known. I feel confident that I’m going to do justice to what Antonio D’Amico went through. There’s a lot of highs and lows in this character … a lot of sadness.
“But at the same time, you have the love and connection between Antonio and Gianni that was magical—to be able to live for 15 years together, in an era where that relationship was forbidden in many aspects, that nothing stopped them is something that I definitely want to talk about.
“It’s a big challenge for me as an actor. The confidence that I got from spending years on Broadway was very important, but television is different. And to be able to maintain the pain for long hours is something that I’ve been dying to do for a long time.”
Ricky shared that shooting in the actual villa of Versace helped him as an actor. “It’s a luxury to be able to walk into a room that helps you to find your emotion. I don’t want to sound cheesy, but I’m being really honest when the first scenes that I shot here were when I actually found Versace dead in front of the house. I got here at 5 o’clock in the morning. I just started working on my emotions, but when I actually walked into that area, it hit me in my chest. I started crying hysterically. I swear I could feel it.
“I went with my gut, and it helped me so much to reach a level of sadness before I heard ‘Action!’ All I had to do was touch the walls, because it was so vibrant.”
(Conclusion on Sunday)
Jon Jon Briones, Ricky Martin and Edgar Ramirez on ‘Versace’ roles
Ricky Martin interview with Good Day Sacramento
We’re chatting with Latin music icon and actor Ricky Martin, who is taking on the role of Versace’s lover, part of the all-star cast, in FX’s “The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story”. | 18 January 2018
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Darren Criss on Andy Cohen Live (January 17th, 2018)
Finn Wittrock On Playing Andrew Cunanan’s First Victim in “The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story”
As a frequent member of Ryan Murphy’s core ensemble, Finn Wittrock is used to being murdered. But in The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story, there’s the added weight of playing the real-life victim of who is referred to as a America’s first gay serial killer.
“It was surreal,“ Wittrock tells INTO. "It was one of the most, just physically and technically one of the hardest things. I was dead and covered in blood and prosthetics for about 12 hours for three days, and they kept telling me they were going to use a fake body double but they used me a lot more than I thought they would. I feel like I earned my stripes that day.”
In the new FX mini-series, Wittrock plays 28-year-old Jeffrey Traill, a former lieutenant in the U.S. Navy whose time in the military coincided with the realization of his homosexuality as well as the instatement of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. Traill, a Gulf War veteran from a blue collar Illinois family, once appeared on 48 Hours to discuss being gay in the navy, though he was shrouded in shadowy anonymity to protect himself from dishonorable discharge.
“Gays are here in the military,” Traill told host Richard Schlesinger. “We perform our jobs and we do it well. … You’re gonna weaken our national defense if you remove gays from the military. And you’ll never be able to do it 100 percent—it’s just whether or not you continue to hunt us and force us to fear.”
“I watched that a lot—every day, over and over, and tried to get his cadence and his rhythm and his shame and also his pride,” Wittrock said of the 48 Hours segment. “He is a complicated fellow. And such a tragic ending because he seemed to have so much potential and just figuring out who he was and what he wanted to do with his life and he lived in a time when he was just a little too early for his time, kind of a trailblazer in a way, you know?”
Traill was, by all accounts, a good guy—maybe too good in that his friendliness and empathy may have cost him his life. Or perhaps it was just bad luck. Traill met Andrew Cunanan after leaving the Navy, but staying near port in San Diego, where Cunanan was a fixture of the nearby gayborhood. In her book Vulgar Favors, journalist Maureen Orth details both Cunanan’s history with wonts of flashiness and propensity for compulsive lying as well as Traill’s loneliness and internalized homophobia as he ventured out of the military and into gay bars. Their fateful meeting turned into a friendship that ended with Traill’s being beaten to death with a claw hammer in a mutual friend’s Minneapolis loft.
The Assassination of Giannini Versace writer Tom Rob Smith adapted his teleplay largely from Orth’s book, as she covered the case for Vanity Fair before Cunanan even reached Versace in Miami in July of 1997. (He would kill himself eight days later.) What Orth’s book offers is not just an in-depth look at Cunanan’s background and psyche, but extensive research into the victims (Traill and Versace as well as architect David Madson, real estate tycoon Lee Miglin, and cemetery worker William Reese), as well as the landscape of American homophobia that factored heavily into how Cunanan’s pre-meditated murder spree was able to unfold.
The FX series attempts to fit as much backstory as it can into a narrative that is by and large about Cunanan (Darren Criss) more than it is Versace (played by Edgar Ramirez), but it’s also more about the anti-gay rhetoric that existed in America at the time than it is about the specificity of Versace’s shooting.
"Certainly for me and I think for Ryan, too, the homophobia that runs through the story is—it brings up painful memories,” says out EP Nina Jacobson. “It is a reminder of how much had changed in 20 years. But to read even in Maureen’s book about where these guys are being outed as they are being murdered; [that police] go to the parents and say, ‘Well, there’s things you don’t know about your son’—it’s just so wrong and so disturbing.”
Jacobson brings up how the FBI knew Cunanan was not just gay, but a frequenter of gay nightclubs, and yet, they wouldn’t canvas gay bars in their manhunt.
“They wouldn’t go into the clubs, they wouldn’t put the flyers up,” Jacobson says. “They wouldn’t go into the community, into the gay bars saying, ‘Have you seen this guy?’ And he’s right there. The politics of that to me were really devastating.”
Versace, she says, didn’t have to die. And that’s one case that the show attempts to make as it tells the story of Cunanan and his murder spree in a backward fashion of sorts.
“There are so many chapters and its such a sprawling, interesting narrative—it’s like a tree that grows all these different branches,“ Wittrock says of the show. "Episode by episode kind of takes you down this individual arc that leads back to the main thing, so I am amused by the structure of it and the writing.”
“Just learning about who Andrew Cunanan is just an amazing dark rabbit hole to go down,” Wittrock continues. “It’s like learning about Jack the Ripper. It’s like you are horrified, but can’t turn away.”
As Traill, Wittrock may meet an untimely death, but he otherwise poses a powerful authenticity that Cuanan seemed to be envious of. Although he was closeted while in the military, Traill risked his career doing not only the 48 Hours interview, but also protecting another soldier from being gay bashed, spurning rumors about his own sexual identity. When Cunanan attempted to out him to his father by sending a romantic sounding postcard to his family’s home address, Wittrock held his composure but decided to cut Cunanan out of his life—at least, that’s what he said he’d planned to do after allowing Cunanan to visit him one last time.
Despite the star power that Ramirez, Ricky Martin, and Penelope Cruz inevitably bring to the series (Martin plays Versace’s long-term lover Antonio D’Amico; Cruz is a campy yet convincing Donatella), Darren Criss is truly the star of Assassination. The name recognition that Versace brings has overshadowed the other victims’ deaths since they took place, but now, the cast and crew insist, they use it not just to draw viewers in, but to take away the iconography Cunanan would have wanted for himself as a fame-seeking serial killer. Instead, Jacobson says, the EPs were hoping the theme would be more about "the inability to be authentic and the struggle for authenticity.”
“And the courage of Versace’s heroism,” she adds, “which I didn’t realize really. When you put him in a timeline, the only other designers who were out were dead, and they were out because they died of AIDS. He chose to come out at a time when Ellen wasn’t out yet. It was a very different time.”
And while Versace’s own hard working history and public coming out was admirable (both on screen and in real life), it’s Wittrock’s broody but noble sailor-turned-factory worker that brings the most relatable heart to the series. Watching him spar with Criss as his scene partner are some of Assassination’s most heartbreaking, too, when you know it’s based on a true horror story.
“We had a good time,“ Wittrock said of working with Criss. "There are some projects where you really take the relationship off screen and this one was more us talking as co-conspirators figuring it out together. He is a very generous person on set and a remarkable versatile actor and really jumps in and out of the character very fluidly.”
Wittrock said Murphy approached him about the role right as he was finishing up The Glass Menagerie on Broadway, and the timing was right not just for him to jump at a new series, but at another chance to work with Murphy, whose prolific creativity can be hit or miss, but is at least always fun for the actors.
“I think that I have been lucky to fall into the Ryan Murphy fan group and that has its own niche within it,“ Wittrock says. "I am honored to be in anything that he has me do, and its cool to play the spectrums of yourself.”
And for Wittrock, playing yet another queer role in the Murphy universe invites an opportunity for him to connect with a fanbase that has supported him in American Horror Story iterations and his role in The Normal Heart. A fanbase that, in 2018, is hopefully outraged by the homophobia that was implicit in the deaths of four gay men (Reese, victim of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, was straight) as it is excited by the idea of seeing Wittrock, Criss, Ramirez, and Martin play queer roles for nine episodes of Ryan Murphy television. It’s certainly a different landscape than when Versace came out, one of few public figures to acknowledge that not only was he gay, but he was happy, too.
Says Wittrock, “Bring on all the gay fans!”
Beware of Darren Criss, the Sweet Serial Killer Next Door
Within seconds of meeting Darren Criss, you can tell that his mother raised him right. He has a firm handshake, repeats everyone’s name, and looks them right in the eye. He has the casual affability of a Cub Scout troop leader or someone sitting next to you in the back row of a SoulCycle class. He hands out compliments like full-sized candy bars. In a room full of people, waiting to take his picture and ask him questions, he seems most excited to talk to a fifth grader about the minutia of Harry Potter mythology.
This wouldn’t be so odd except that all of these people are waiting to ask him questions about playing a serial killer. Criss’s latest role is Andrew Cunanan, an openly-gay escort turned spree murderer whose last crime before he killed himself is the titular one in American Crime Story: The Assassination of Gianni Versace, which premiered on Wednesday night. Watching Criss bound around this hotel room would be normal for a 30-year-old actor on the rise if we all hadn’t watched the second episode of the series, where he dances around a Miami hotel room in his underwear torturing a man to the point of suffocation while Phil Collins’s “Easy Lover” blasts in the background.
But maybe Darren, the precocious star next door, and Andrew, the precocious killer next door, aren’t so far apart after all. “Of the many things that break my heart about Andrew is that after this all came out, and friends and loved ones of his found out about it, they were mortified. They couldn’t believe it,” Criss says. “Andrew was a very bright, affable, lovable guy. He had so much promise, and you wonder a little, then, how does a kid with all this go down such a destructive path.”