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‘Breaking Bad’s’ 10-Year Anniversary, Plus New Shows From David Letterman and ‘American Crime Story’

The Ringer’s Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald review David Letterman’s new Netflix show, ‘My Next Guest Needs No Introduction’ (3:00), and go “In or Out” on ‘The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story’ (15:00). Later they celebrate the 10-year anniversary of the premiere of ‘Breaking Bad’ (25:00).

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It Takes a Decade

Rock Stars, Bragging about The Grammys, Linking things, Amazing Race Twin Stupidity (How NOT to drive a car), The Australian Open, Johnny Mac, True Crime and DON’T listen to that one show. Also: Dirty John, The Wilson Brothers Hang with Charlie, American Crime Story’s Hideous Versace series, and Anne’s AMAZING DREAM about Jeff Daniels. Plus: Conan travels around, Judy Holliday, The EYE Doctor and Listener Letters! | 30 January 2018

JENNIFER CHRISTMAN: Criminal action of the 1990s is my jam

GIANNI VERSACE

As seen on: the current The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story (FX, 9 p.m. Wednesday, fxnetworks.com).

Maybe relatives of the late Gianni Versace aren’t on board with this Ryan Murphy project (their statement: “The Versace family has neither authorized nor had any involvement whatsoever. … This TV series should only be considered as a work of fiction.)” But I am.

The dark story about creepy serial killer (and serial freaky-deaky duct-taper) Andrew Cunanan, who murdered at least five people including the famous designer, has everything: fashion, sex, lies, intrigue, the actual opulent Ocean Drive Versace mansion, a vulnerable Ricky Martin (who plays Versace’s grief-stricken partner) and blond-wigged Penelope Cruz as Versace’s SNL-spoofed sister Donnatella.

All that and ‘90s club tunes. When was the last time you heard “Be My Lover” by La Bouche? And the action moves slowly, so there’s plenty of time to Google things like “What does La Bouche mean in English?”

It means “the mouth.” As in check out the big “la bouche” on Penelope as big-lipped Donnatella.

JENNIFER CHRISTMAN: Criminal action of the 1990s is my jam

“The Assassination of Gianni Versace”: The Next Best Thing to Being a Star is Killing One

“Kitsch,” Milan Kundera once wrote, “is the absolute denial of shit, in both the literal and the figurative senses of the word.” Unconcerned with hiding the figurative shit, and instead content to thrust it onto the viewer within the first minute, the second installment of American Crime Story starts with Gianni Versace in the hospital, being treated for what we are led to assume is HIV. Shit happens, then you die; a lot of this shit is unearned, unfair and brutal. A lot of this shit is painful and undignified, and it kills. For a show that has—as Penelope-as-Donatella says to Ricky-as-Antonio, Gianni’s partner, of her brother—“a weakness for beauty,” The Assassination of Gianni Versace is, in this brief scene at least, extremely frank.

This frankness has not thrilled the Versace family, who released a public statement earlier this month disputing the idea that Gianni had AIDS: “The company producing the series claims it is relying on a book by Maureen Orth,” it reads (referring to Orth’s Vulgar Favors, published in 2000), “but the Orth book itself is full of gossip and speculation. As just one example, Orth makes assertions about Gianni Versace’s medical condition based on a person who claims he reviewed a post-mortem test result, but she admits it would have been illegal for the person to have reviewed the report in the first place (if it existed at all).”

Last week, on a podcast based entirely around the show (made—in a fit of content and creator every bit as snug as that of Cunanan’s red Speedo—by the team atVanity Fair), Tom Robert Smith, a writer on the series and a firm believer in Orth’s version of events, offered a rebuttal. “Andrew [Cunanan, the killer], this destroyer of life, did not have AIDS,” said Smith. “And the person who did have HIV was this great creator and celebrator of life.”

Narratively, this can’t help but seem convenient, given that we see Gianni literally proclaim his lust for living in a scene that falls between his treatment and his murder. The Assassination lays on its dramatic irony, at times, less like a layer of gossamer than a sheet of lead: a dead man’s shroud. Unlike the chainmail fabric Cunanan is seen to rhapsodize about like a fetish object (“The man invented his own fabrics! Ever heard of Oroton?”), it does not wear it lightly, nor with enviable ease.

All the other things that happen in the episode are minor enough that I can lay them out succinctly: Donatella argues with Versace’s live-in lover, the sweet but minimally-used Antonio, played by Ricky Martin, over whether it’s his fault that Gianni has contracted H.I.V. from a three-way fling. The killer drives into Miami playing Laura Branigan’s Gloria, making this the second filmed depiction of true violence in six months to use the track as a doomy gag. We are treated to a recreation of Versace’s final show which, ludicrously, does not have Naomi Campbell play herself despite the fact she’s aged like a bona fide artwork. Cunanan turns tricks on the beach, and then almost suffocates an older man with duct tape in a hotel room that looks like Barbie’s Porno Dream House, to the very un-hot and unsophisticated soundtrack of Phil Collins’ Easy Lover. If this does not sound like high art, understand that it isn’t. If it does not sound like entertainment, you might be—like Cunanan’s new beachside hustler friend—on crack.

Kundera also said about kitsch that “it causes two tears to flow in quick succession. The first tear,” he explained, “says: How nice to see children running on the grass! The second tear says: How nice to be moved, together with all mankind, by children running on the grass! It is the second tear that makes kitsch ‘kitsch.’” When Andrew Cunanan arrives at the Normandy Plaza hotel in Miami, he is momentarily transfixed by a bad, gray painting of Marilyn; and how nice it is to be moved, along with all mankind, by reminders of Marilyn’s face. How nice to be moved, along with all mankind, by images that necessarily remind us of her death in the décor of a crumbling Deco-era hotel: death made spectacular enough that it’s pure public spectacle, pure pulpy, campy entertainment. “I’m the one least likely to be forgotten,” Cunanan later says to a guy in a club. It does not sound exactly like a lie, since the next best thing to being a star is killing one.

“The Assassination of Gianni Versace”: The Next Best Thing to Being a Star is Killing One

Judith Light shines in yet another role – The Boston Globe

I remember Judith Light from her days on “One Life to Live,” when she brought the character of Karen Wolek from prostitution to the witness protection program in Canada, where, I imagine, she continues to thrive.

Since those days, Light has done all kinds of material, from the flimsy — “Who’s the Boss?” and the “Dallas” reboot — to the formidable, including the stage show “Wit” in 1999 and a pair of back-to-back Tony-winning performances in Broadway shows in 2012 and 2013. Lately, I’ve loved her in “Transparent,” as Shelly Pfefferman.

On Wednesday night, Light delivers yet another remarkable performance, in FX’s “The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story,” alongside Mike Farrell. She is Marilyn Miglin, the wife of Farrell’s Lee Miglin, a Chicago real estate tycoon. One weekend, when Marilyn is out of town filming an infomercial for her successful line of cosmetics, the closeted Lee has Andrew Cunanan over to their deluxe apartment for a date. It doesn’t end well, as you can imagine, with Farrell (who absolutely must play Joe Biden someday) winding up dead on the garage floor surrounded by gay magazines carefully placed there by Cunanan.

Marilyn returns to the crime scene, and her denial about her husband only escalates. Watching Light play out this powerful woman’s refusal to take in the truth is heartbreaking. She gives us a spouse waging a quiet, stoic war against her loss and her humiliation. She has roused all of her strength in service of their social reputation.

This tense series goes deep on Cunanan, but it simultaneously makes the victims — and, in this case, their family — into full human beings.

Judith Light shines in yet another role – The Boston Globe

American Crime Story: Versace Recap: “Manhunt” Provides Insight Into A Killer’s Mind With Some Sex And Duct Tape

Just when you thought Darren Criss as Andrew Cunanan couldn’t get any more unsettling, this week’s episode of The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story basically said “hold my beer” to the audience as it gave us more insight into Cunanan’s crazy mind.

While the premiere episode definitely set the tone of the show and what is yet to come, this week’s episode, aptly titled “Manhunt”, completely broke down Criss’ squeaky Glee persona as he solidified his performance as Cunanan, unnerving as it is to watch. Much of the action in the episode took place in the past, which gave us a better understanding of what led Cunanan to murder Versace.

Additionally, a glimpse into Antonio’s and Versace’s relationship was also provided as some light was shed on why Donatella is so antagonistic towards her brother’s partner.

Gather ’round and let’s discuss “Manhunt.”

Back In 1994: The episode started by taking us back to 1994, the year Versace was allegedly diagnosed with HIV (though the Versace family states the famed designer had ear cancer to this day). Versace looked very distraught about his health situation, but was also determined to beat whatever was ailing him (the story about his eldest sister dying and how it made him feel like anything was treatable was a particularly touching moment). Meanwhile, on the other hand, his sister wasn’t feeling as optimistic as the diagnosis brought out Donatella’s true feelings about Antonio, whom she blamed for her brother’s infection. “He wasn’t enough for you,” she said. “You wanted more. More fun, more men.” She also chastised him for not finding a way to give her brother a family, which she claimed Antonio knew he always wanted. “If you had given him anything, I would have given you respect,” she said. “But you gave him nothing.” Those feelings never did change as Antonio and Donatella feigned getting along while in Gianni’s presence but the second he was dead, Donatella flat out told Antonio “there’s no need to pretend.”

Antonio was not the only thing that they disagreed about as the siblings had their moments of fighting in-house when it came to the future of the company. Versace clashed with his sister, who expressed concerns about newer designers stealing attention — and business — away from the company. She wanted to have a more extreme and edgy look to push towards the future while Gianni still wanted his designs and his shows to show off his heart and come from it as well. He also argued that the Versace models were too skinny (which we agree with him). Determined to prove her wrong, and to prove that he wasn’t going to let his recent diagnosis slow him down, he pulled off a crowd-pleasing runway surprise, temporarily silencing Donatella’s concerns.

Despite their disagreements, Donatella did love her brother, as we were taken back to 1997, shortly after Gianni’s death. Donatella arrived to see his body, bringing a suit for him. She tenderly tightened his tie in the coffin and fixed his cufflinks. He looked perfect, almost living, and then he was cremated. All of that beautiful effort was turned to ashes, and put in a gold box to go back to Italy on a plane with Donatella.

In 1997: Andrew Cunanan was arriving in Miami Beach ready to make a name for himself. His first order of business was to secure a room at Miami’s Normandy Plaza, where he came upon a tragic soul named Ronnie, a drug addict afflicted with HIV who seemed very interested in Andrew (or Andy, as he introduced himself to Ronnie). Cunanan either took a liking to or felt pity for Ronnie as he befriends him and offers to help pay for things. Luckily, money wasn’t an issue for the duo, as Andrew’s side business — which mostly involved seducing married men, wrapping their heads in duct tape, then eating room-service entrees, was doing rather well.

Ronnie had high hopes for the pair of them but Andrew did not. After wrapping his own head in duct tape (there was a lot of that this week) and taking a long shower, Andrew walked out of their shared apartment — and Ronnie’s life — for good. Even worse, when Ronnie questioned if Andrew considered him a friend, Andrew chillingly replied, “When someone asks if we’re friends, you’ll say no.” That line takes us back to last week’s premiere when Ronnie was found by the police and asked about Andrew.

This episode also really showed how little interest the police — and even the FBI — had in pursuing a string of gay-related crimes, even one as twisted as Andrew’s killing spree.

Quote of the Night:

“What is Versace without you?” Donatella
“It is you.” Gianni

American Crime Story: Versace Recap: “Manhunt” Provides Insight Into A Killer’s Mind With Some Sex And Duct Tape

The Assassination Of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story Sends Chills Down Our Spines In Its Premiere

Ever since it was announced that the next American Crime Story season would be about the murder of fashion legend Gianni Versace, the world has been on pins and needles waiting for it to premiere. With a powerhouse cast featuring Édgar Ramírez as Versace, Ricky Martin as his lover/partner of 15 years Antonio D’Amico, Penélope Cruz as Donatella Versace, and Darren Criss as his killer Andrew Cunanan, the hype surrounding this series has been huge.

The wait for this series ended Wednesday as Versace finally premiered, and the wait was definitely well worth it. Versace wasted no time getting down to the thick of things and setting up a series that will rock us to the core. For those expecting Criss to be anything like his Glee persona, prepare to be in shock as from the moment he is shown as Cunanan, you cease to see Criss and forget that he was ever America’s Teenage Dream. He’s that good.

So what went down during its premiere episode “The Man Who Would be Vogue”? Let’s discuss!

A Cold Opening: The series dives right into the last day of Gianni Versace. Versace starts his day off by having breakfast, taking a stroll around his gorgeous house, saying goodbye to his partner Antonio D’Amico as he heads off to play tennis, and getting his favorite magazines from his local newsstand. Andrew Cunanan, on the other hand, starts his day off sitting by the beach, contemplating life before walking into the ocean, screaming out into the void. Shortly afterwards, the would be killer is then seen throwing up as he braces himself to do what we now know to be one unspeakable act of horror. Cunanan then makes his way to Versace’s house, where he spots the designer opening his gate to return home. Cunanan then takes out a gun from his backpack and shoots Versace down.

We’re Going Back To Start: We are then taken back to the year Cunanan first met Versace at a gay club in San Francisco in October 1990. With this particular flashback, we get to know quite a bit about Cunanan, the wannabe social climber. He immediately gives you the impression that he’s “that guy” at the party — the one who shows up uninvited, then proceeds to inject himself into strangers’ conversations, which in this case was Versace’s but to his luck and credit, his boyish charm works on Versace, earning him a date to the opera. Cunanan presented a completely fictitious backstory, one that made him approximately 100 percent more Italian than he actually was, which totally appealed to the famed designer.

After scoring his date, Cunanan shares his luck (with greatly exaggerated and made up details) with several of his friends the next day, which make us question what exactly went down since we are seeing all of this through his eyes, giving us a glimpse inside of his crazy brain. While sharing his story with Elizabeth and Phil Cote, a straight married couple, he calls Versace the F-word but later on while talking to a fellow gay, Cunanan refers to his meeting with Versace at the opera as a date. “You tell gay people you’re gay and straight people you’re straight,” the friend states. Cunanan goes on his date with Versace (still trying to figure out whether this was real or not), and the two share a moment, which no doubt will go back to haunt him later.

Back To The Future: Flashing forward to the day of Versace’s murder, Antonio, while washing his hands, hears the gunshot and races towards the sound to find Gianni bleeding to death. After what seems ages, the police finally show up, without an ambulance though, which comes much later. Versace is then very slowly taken to the hospital, where he flatlines and is pronounced dead at 9:21am. The hunt for his killer begins, and the world is told of his death. D’Amico is questioned later on that same day about his relationship with Versace by an apparently homophobic cop, who doesn’t hold much respect for Versace’s and D’Amico’s relationship. The police seemed far more interested in details about Versace’s sexual behavior than the details surrounding his untimely demise.

After D’Amico’s questioning, the spotlight then turns to Donatella’s arrival and reaction to her brother’s death, which was shocking in itself. Most of her mourning breath was spent belittling her brother’s lover. When Antonio broke down in tears, her response was, “That’s not what I need from you right now.” Donatella later berated him for not protecting her brother, which she called his one job (ouch, low blow, too soon).

The episode finishes up with Cunanan still on the loose, buying newspapers with the headlines all about Versace’s murder and his involvement in it.

Instant Reactions/Questions:

Darren Criss must have watched American Psycho while preparing for this role. His Cunanan gave me some serious Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman vibes.

Not really digging Donatella’s treatment of Antonio at the moment.

Speaking of Antonio, Ricky Martin is doing a beautiful job showing his grief and pain.

The music in this episode is A+.

Did anyone else feel a stabbing pain in their hearts when one of the magazines Gianni picked out had a picture of Princess Diana, who would later die less than a month after Versace?

Quote of the Night:

“I tell people what they need to hear.” – Andrew Cunanan.

The Assassination Of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story Sends Chills Down Our Spines In Its Premiere

Serial Killers, Versace, and Me

In the summer of 1997, a little more than half a lifetime ago, I got my first proper summer job. The job, with one of the many branches of Canada’s federal government in Ottawa, covered the entire tuition for my sophomore year of college (such things were possible in the late nineties). The gig itself was worlds away from my current occupation as a crime writer. “Inventory asset management” was the vague, jargony title that described the mix of my duties: lifting heavy objects—furniture, office supplies—and computer data entry.

It was meant to be tedious, a spirit confirmed by the office’s gray cubicles, the recycled air, and the lack of ambition among my colleagues. But my mornings were not boring. I began my summer gig the first week of July, and within a week I had developed a lively routine. One of my coworkers—perhaps even my then boss—left a stack of printouts at my desk. They weren’t for my job. They were something else entirely.

“Hey, Sarah!” he’d say. “Here’s the latest on that spree killer you’re obsessed with.”

And every morning, I’d sift through the papers, then search on AltaVista or Lycos for the latest on a twenty-seven-year-old fugitive named Andrew Cunanan. I needed to know more. I needed to know why.

Two decades later, I suppose I still do.

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Most people didn’t start to pay attention to Andrew Cunanan until after he murdered Gianni Versace: Just after nine A.M., on July 15, 1997, Cunanan walked up to the front steps of Versace’s Miami Beach villa, shot him twice, and fled. Another week of intense law-enforcement searches and media scrutiny followed, and then both started to wane when Cunanan killed himself on July 23. Now, the new series American Crime Story: The Assassination of Gianni Versace, currently airing on FX, implies, from its title, a singular focus on that murder.

I’d already bought in months before, just after the murder of the Chicago real-estate developer Lee Miglin in his garage on May 4. The FBI added Cunanan to their Most Wanted list after that savage crime. The poster, with several different photos of Cunanan, appeared on broadcast after broadcast. And when it wasn’t airing, I’d log on and look at it on what passed for newspaper websites in the spring of 1997, and then discuss theories and speculate on newsgroups and message boards.

Like so many other bored teens, I was a bored teen with a hobby. The only difference was mine was obsessing about crime. It began when I was young: tallying a list of baseball players who were murdered; reading about the disappearances of Etan Patz and Tania Murrell, the murders of Kristen French and Leslie Mahaffy, Christine Jessop and Sharin’ Morningstar Keenan; following hometown newspaper accounts of two still-unsolved murders of sex workers, Melinda Sheppit and Sophie Filion. My life was order; crime was chaos. Even when those crimes had solutions, new cases re-created the chaos.

From my reading on Cunanan, I decided that it didn’t seem likely that he would cross the border into Canada to continue his spree. Still, I wondered if he might. He had traveled from California to Minnesota, on to Chicago. He’d go east to New York City and New Jersey, then down to South Carolina and Miami, switching cars and swapping license plates, before the killing was over.

It was like chasing O.J. Simpson’s Ford Bronco, but it stretched out over months. It was Charles Starkweather without Caril Fugate (unless David Madson, Cunanan’s former lover, qualified: he was hostage and witness to the murder of victim number one, Jeff Trail, before he became victim number two). The pace was fast and then it was unbearably, excruciatingly slow.

I looked for crumbs in the details, from the barking dog in Madson’s apartment to the screwdriver used to bash in Miglin’s head. So many rumors. So much speculation. None of it seemed real. None of it seemed knowable. “None of you really know who I am,” Cunanan was reported to have told friends in San Francisco before flying north to Minneapolis, where his killing spree began. “None of it is real,” the fictional Madson (Cody Fern) tells Cunanan (Darren Criss) in an early confrontation in the new series. “It’s just one of your stories.”

For the men Cunanan murdered, and their surviving families, it couldn’t be anything but real.

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Because I followed the case in real time, it was jarring to watch The Assassination of Gianni Versace unspool in reverse. It opens, of course, with Versace’s murder, as dramatic a scene in a television show as it had to have been on the morning of July 15, 1997. Of course, we then need to step back and understand what drove Andrew Cunanan to transform obsession into murderous action, while also learning how Versace rose from obscure Calabrian designer to become one of the most famous men in fashion.

Tom Rob Smith, who wrote all nine episodes, is an accomplished screenwriter (London Spy) and an excellent thriller writer (Child 44, Agent 6). I sensed the struggle he likely had in twinning these two disparate stories, forging distant connections—Versace and Cunanan apparently met in San Francisco—into something more substantive, if imaginative.

One problem may have been the series’ source material: Maureen Orth’s Vulgar Favors (1999) was based on a Vanity Fair article she was working on before Versace’s death forced her to rewrite it on the most impossible deadline. Orth relayed the facts through the prism of Cunanan’s celebrity obsession, looking for larger meaning where there wasn’t one. Her descriptions of early 1990s gay life clang like an out-of-tune bell; the TV series does a far superior job showing the casual homophobia, the still-prevalent fear of AIDS, and the concepts—like gay marriage—that were unthinkable then.

Gary Indiana’s Three-Month Fever, also published in 1999 and reissued last year, was more imaginative than Orth’s factual account. Indiana includes sections from Cunanan’s point of view, with thoughts the author could never have been privy to. But Three-Month Fever felt the more honest of the two books in its attempt to override a “narrative overripe with tabloid evil” in order to concentrate on “the somewhat poignant and depressing but fairly ordinary thing.”

Cunanan’s and Versace’s stories diverged because their lives operated on different planes. Versace strove and succeeded beyond his earliest ambitions. Cunanan strove and failed, time and time again. Versace was open about his sexuality, other opinions be damned. Cunanan masked his homosexuality when it suited him, and played it up at other opportune moments. Versace was never anyone else than himself. Cunanan, the chameleon, had no self to be.

The only true convergence was that morning of July 15, 1997, when Cunanan forced himself into Versace’s story like the proverbial spider eating the fly.

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By design, The Assassination of Gianni Versace is a male-dominated narrative, and its performances are generally strong. (Darren Criss, in particular, inhabits Cunanan’s narcissism with queasy brilliance.) It takes as its subject homosexuality (both its embrace and its condemnation) and ranges from flashy Miami Beach bacchanalia to the despair of being closeted in a military setting. Homophobia, and closeted self-loathing, are casual and catastrophic. Women are not the story here.

But the scene that stuck with me the most, from episode 3, centers on a woman and her emotions. It’s when Marilyn Miglin (Judith Light), who has just come home from a Toronto trip to the news that her husband has been murdered, sits in front of her bathroom mirror. She touches up her makeup. She makes sure her hair is perfectly in place. She’s already, in a clipped voice that brooks no opposition, informed the police captain that the family only cares about the capture of Miglin’s killer, without airing any of the sexual peccadilloes.

“I know what they are saying about me,” says Marilyn Miglin. “Where’s the emotion, where’s the grief … How could a woman who cares so much about appearance appear not to care?” Light, as Marilyn, is all controlled fury in this scene, especially when she utters the line, “You’re weak.” Here, even before the inevitable breakdown, all of the contradictions are plain in her face and in her hands. She loved her husband. She knew him better than anyone.

Hers is the story I’d like to see fully told. But Marilyn Miglin has never again spoken to the press about her late husband, though she kept on with her cosmetics company and regular appearances on the Home Shopping Network. Their son, Duke, broke his own silence last May, to a Chicago television station. “There’s never really closure in a situation like this,” he said.

*

The spell broke on July 23, 1997. I don’t remember if more printouts showed up at my desk, or if I’d heard the news later on, after I’d gone home for the day. Andrew Cunanan was dead by suicide. No note, no motive. No answers, no solutions. Books and films, more books and then television shows followed.

There were no more stories to print out every morning. My coworkers found other topics to interest them, and I suppose I did as well. The world moved on, most definitively, when Princess Diana died in a paparazzi-induced car crash on August 31. My own interest in true crime waxed and waned before becoming my preeminent occupation. But I’m no closer to knowing why Cunanan killed five men.

Maybe it’s as simple as this: All his life, Cunanan had a core narrative. He believed that he was special, and that people would love him as a result, no matter how outlandish his stories. There were multiple versions of himself, depending on the audience. It was false, a story with an expiration date. But when the expiration date came due, when the core narrative couldn’t sustain him anymore, he was over. No more Andrew Cunanan. The story that enabled him to live no longer worked, so he had to die. To keep the story alive, he killed others, out of rage, opportunity, or obsession with fame.

No wonder the blanks remain so blank, ready to be filled in by eager journalists, novelists, screenwriters. Because it’s a void. Andrew Cunanan was no mythic figure. Even comparing him to Tom Ripley is lazy, though I suppose Patricia Highsmith might have been intrigued by his behavior. Cunanan’s crimes were awful not because of the tangential celebrity but because of their mundane horror. They deserve airing to help us understand not him but ourselves.

Serial Killers, Versace, and Me

American Crime Story: The Assassination of Gianni Versace || Episode 01 – Recap Rewind

On this week’s episode of American Crime Story: The Assassination of Gianni Versace, we talk the very first episode titled, “The Man Who Would Be Vogue” JLAG and NBEA review, react and recap this episode and talk about initial thoughts on the characters and directions. | 29 January 2018

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Getting Catty w/ Kat & Pat #16: Gonna Make You Sweat
Original Release Date: January 28, 2018

Patrick and Kat return to discuss the second episode of American Crime Story: The Assassination of Gianni Versace and the creepy factor gets turned up a hundred notches. This week, the bad blood between Donatella, Antonio, and Gianni boils over and Andrew… is just plain out… up to no good.

Plus, shoutout to the forgotten heroes of the week: The Sub Shop Clerk, The Female FBI Agent, and The Pawn Shop Owner; who listen to their guts and cut through the red tape that is wrapping itself around the piss poor handling of this case.

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